Wisconsins use the Causes platform on both sides of the budget bill

Posted Feb 28, 2011 by

As we continue to explore activists’ use of our platform, I wanted to highlight two causes on opposite sides of the Wisconsin budget conflict.

Just a little primer

Wisconsin’s Governor Scott Walker(R) has proposed a bill that would end collective bargaining agreements for all state workers except for Fire, Police and Inspectors. This effort is part of a larger effort to erase the state’s $3.6m budget deficit.

Included in the bill is the proposal to nearly double the workers’ contribution to their benefits plans to 12.6% of earnings as well as an additional 5.8% contribution to their pension plans (note that these amounts are less than half the national average). In exchange, Governor Walker has promised the affected workers no furloughs or layoffs. However, if the bill does not pass, Governor Walker has stated that the state will be forced to lay off approximately 5,500 state employees.

In addition to the financial terms of the bill (which the public employee unions have agreed to) Governor Walker remains steadfast in his intention to end collective bargaining for state employees. This debate goes much deeper than the budget deficit – after all, the unions have agreed to meet the financial demands in the bill – and is more about union vs non-union labor.

Not activists – just regular working folks

Causes users Josh Beck and Matthew Haugen sit on opposite sides of this debate, and while neither consider themselves to be activists, they’ve both created large communities on Causes.com in support of their arguments.

Both Beck and Haugen chose Causes because they wanted the ability to share information, news, and personal stories with large numbers of people. They’ve been very active on the platform, sending out regular bulletins and recruiting people to join their causes–key components in building an active community on the Causes.com platform.

Beck and Haugen are both 30 years old – Beck is a high school English teacher and Haugen works in manufacturing.

Beck’s cause, Vote No on Walker’s Budget Bill has grown to over 75k members in just 12 days while Haugen’s, Support Scott Walkers Budget Bill, is nearing 11,000 members in 10 days:

Admittedly, Beck’s been more active as a cause administrator than Haugen, which does help grow a community. He and other members are sending out several bulletins a day; members of the cause then have the opportunity to share, comment on or otherwise promote the bulletins to their network of friends on Facebook. Active participation in a cause sends a signal to your Facebook network that there’s something going on that might be worth their attention. The viral loop continues to expand as people join and participate in the cause and that, in turn, signals interest to their network.

Matthew Haugen: “Support Scott Walker’s Bill”:

“The people elected in November are only following through on campaign promises”

Haugen describes himself as an “everyday 30 year old, blue collared worker” who, concerned about employment in the state, simply wants public employees to pay their fair share. As a private sector worker, he funds his own retirement and pays about “3 times as much” for his healthcare than public sector workers.

“Everyone has the right to express the way they feel, I respect that. I also have a great deal of respect for those that dedicate their life to public service. I feel the protesters should have gone about things differently. For example, they could have come out to protest after work and on the weekend. That way they could have fulfilled their duties at work as well as being heard. The teachers weren’t making a lot of friends when parents had to take time off from work or find childcare on short notice. The teacher sick out was an illegal strike and they should face consequences for their actions. Also the doctors handing out “sick notes” should be ashamed of themselves.”

When it comes to protecting workers’ rights, Haugen sees OSHA (The Occupational Safety and Health Administration, a federal agency within the Labor Department established in 1971) as being the right organization to protect workers’ rights, while contending that unions protect workers’ privileges. In his eyes, unions have been made outdated with OSHA standards in place as the primary aim of OSHA is to protect almost the entire work force from job-related death, injury and illness. What OSHA doesn’t protect are workplace conditions, benefits, policies, complaint procedures and the hiring, firing and promotion of workers, among other things. Labor unions, when a workplace has been unionized, handle these negotiations for their members.

Josh Beck, “Vote No on Walker’s Budget Bill”:

“Collective bargaining in the education world has positive impacts on students”

Public education teachers use collective bargaining for more than just pay and benefits. Collective bargaining can be used for everything from limiting class size, the use of technology in the classroom, to how much prep time teachers receive to how much professional development they are offered and more. According to Beck, professional development helps teachers more effectively educate and reach struggling learners and challenge advanced students. The loss of collective bargaining will result in classroom sizes reaching 40 or more students per teacher in his district. He asks, “How can one person be expected to meet the diverse needs of 40 students per class and 130+ students per day?” Beck worries that he won’t be able to differentiate instruction for students who have diverse needs and, “differentiated classrooms have a high rate of success on all assessment methods.”

When asked about what we can do to ensure our schools and education systems are keeping pace with the rest of the world, Haugen contends that educational policy should not be legislated with the teachers’ primary interest in mind. “The potential to get fired if you don’t do a good job (like any other successful business in the United States) is what spurs competition among faculty, ultimately resulting in teachers expending as much effort as possible to create and execute a successful lesson plan,” states Haugen.

On the other hand, Beck is deeply concerned about what the loss of collective bargaining will mean both for his own job, and the effect he believes that loss will have on the quality of public school education in Wisconsin.

“To help ensure our schools can be competitive, we need to change how we fund schools. We need to change our funding system so that it is more fair and equitable. It’s not right that the largest school district in the state can only afford to spend $10-15,000 less per student than some of its neighboring districts. We’ll only be able to get as far as our weakest members of society are able to go, and the unfair funding system in WI hurts the poorest areas of the state. We also need to truly invest in schools. If we shifted money from the prison system and shifted it into reading and education programs, we’d see less people end up in prisons. Research shows that the average reading level of an inmate in America is between 3rd and 4th grade, yet most things in our society is written at a 6th to 7th grade reading level.”

Given the opportunity to talk with someone from the other side, what would you say?

Haugen says, “I basically want to show people what many private sector workers deal with every day. I pay about 3 times what many public workers do for my healthcare and I fund my own retirement. I have paid a lot more for my healthcare at previous employers, but now I work for an employer that respects quality workers and rewards us with a good healthcare plan.”

Beck says, “…to truly educate them about what’s all included in the bill. It is so much more than just public employee’s pay and benefits. It includes things like Medicaid oversight, BadgerCare funding, more centralized power for the governor and his office, less oversight of those new executive powers by the legislature, loss of federal funds for transit, loss of collective bargaining rights, etc. It’s so much more than money.”

The other day, I heard someone suggest that it’s not possible to change someone’s mind or behavior based on passionate pleas alone – that in order to affect change, one must have some sort of intimate connection with an individual or direct experience with the issue at hand. Protests aren’t going to convince one side or the other to step across the line, but they do give a voice to those who feel the need to be heard. The anti-Walker protesters have been loudest and largest in number, yet those who voted for Walker have, perhaps, already said what they had to say when given the opportunity at the polls. Right now, the issues in Wisconsin are divisive, the outcomes will be historic — and both sides have passionate beliefs around them. All we know is that until the state’s democratic lawmakers return to the legislature, this bill will remain on hold. While it’s possible that Governor Walker will make some concessions and propose a changed bill, at this point we’ll likely see an end to Wisconsin’s 52 year old law protecting public employees’ rights to collective bargaining.

Your turn: Given the opportunity to talk with someone from the other side, what would you say?

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  • Dean Donato

    We are all replacable!! I think thats why you are all angry…..Officials are elected to do a job, It seems that Walker is the only one working there

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Garry-Sagel/1475425427 <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="1475425427">Garry Sagel</fb:name>

    The teachers violated their contract by not being in the classroom, and the “doctors” passing out bogus sick notes is borderline malpractice. Both should face penalties. As for the workers, PAY YOUR OWN WAY! The gold-plated retirement funds have got to end.

  • Jessica

    Some teachers did miss work – MOST teachers did not, Gerry. The thing is, this isn’t JUST about teachers, but that’s all that I seem to be hearing about – and I am lucky enough to live with a republican, so I get to hear about it quite a bit. The fact is, unions WILL pay what is being asked, unions that include the guys who work on the roads, nurses, corrections officers, teachers, etc. That needs to be recognized.

    Do you want your kids in a class of 40? What if that kid has a learning disability? My son is a very smart, very active, very independent minded 7 year old only child – who would be LOST in a classroom of that size – no doubt he’d be craving attention to the point of disruption. No doubt, that would be the beginning of the end for him.

    Do you want your parents working with a nurse who has to see so many patients that s/he can’t pay attention to the details? My grandfather, he is ill. I want his nurse WITH him – not rushing around to MANY others. Unions help that happen.

    How about clean water – do you like that? Because this bill also gets rid of the Clean Water Act.

    As a teacher, I WANT to do what’s best for children. I don’t need competition to be the best that I can be in the classroom, my kids need it & I provide it, but I’ll welcome it if that’s what needs to be done to keep our classrooms serving children in a manner which we can be proud of… I’ll pay the insurance money, I’ll pay the pension money, but don’t take away my right to have a say in what helps move education forward. I certainly wouldn’t want to tell a governor or a manufacturer how to handle their day-to-day business & they are definitely not qualified to tell me how to handle mine!

  • Old man of the see

    The contempt of the people who discribe this as a golden retirement have forgotten the commitment they had agreed to when tommie said we would Qeo the educators. All and may I add The word All !!!!!!!! of the commitments were agreed to 20 Years ago. You said don’t make us pay for your contract up front!!!!! let us just provide for a good,(Not as nice as The Koch assholes) Remember all they did was get dad’s money…. retirment for you. Now you are saying oh you have it to good…. Waitjust a shitslinging moment!!! We gave you a consession then and now you don’t want to Honor your contract. I was a farmer and did work for other farmers because I had a chopper and big tractor at the time, almost all the people paid me for my effort except a Bastard Right wing ass Who told me because milk price dropped he could not afford to pay me for my services.. after he asked me to chop feed for his livestock this is the same thing!!!! and from the same type of person…. The scummmmmmm
    of the earth right wing B.S. Rich people have way tooooooooo much look up you sheep of WALKERS.

  • Mary Stigler

    I think Josh Beck has good points. I, too, am concerned about the quality of education children receive. I also know that it takes a dedicated teacher and much time outside of the classroom to be able to give concentrated attention to meet the needs of each student. A class of 30 or 40 students will have diverse needs, and the teacher must try to meet all of them. Lets give them a chance. The teachers are willing. They need to be able to make the proper decisions in giving their best to our students. If Gov. Walker’s bill passes, they will be denied any input as to what is the best for students.

  • Shannon

    I live in Florida, our state spends half on our students as what Wisconsin spends on theirs, yet we are in the top 20 states in education. My kids go to a high school that was ranked in the top 50 of all the schools in the United States according to US News & World Reports. Our state passed an amendment years ago that only allows so many children to a classroom – you do NOT need collective bargaining for this requirement. I was an education major in college yet chose another career because of the low pay for teacher’s, no one favors teacher’s more than I do … but I just want to point out that you do not need to spend a ton of money for a good education for your kids! Does Florida need to work on educating their students – absolutely! But Wisconsin, our schools get roughly $3000/per student, we would love to get $7,000!! You all are screaming over your numbers and from what I hear on TV, you don’t even have good schools, that there is a high rate of illiteracy in your state! Take the cuts like the rest of us, pass an amendment in your state allowing 18 kids per classroom and take all this dedication you have for this protest and fix your schools and give the children of Wisconsin the best education that you are capable of.

  • Josh

    Shannon, it’s not easy to get a constitutional amendment passed in WI, and furthermore, the constitution shouldn’t be used to control little things like that. The founding fathers would roll over in their graves to know that a document like that was being used in such a petty way. Furthermore, where are you getting your facts on WI? WI has consistently ranked number 2 in the national ACT rankings. Where is your source for WI being the bottom in literacy. That’s absurd!

  • Dave

    Let’s not cloud the issue. This is all abou the GREED of the teachers and their union ‘bretheren’ and not about the quality of education. Here’s proof.

    Time and time again, when school districts are faced with shortfalls in funding, the final choice always comes down to cutting staff vs. cutting teacher benefits. Without exception, the benefits have been preserved by ‘collective bargaining’ and more teachers are laid off (so much for protecting the jobs of their ‘bretheren’). If we continue down this path, soon we WILL have 40 students per teacher. Walker’s plan reduces the cost of each teacher, so we can preserve more teaching jobs and maintian the ratio we have and the quality of education.

    As far as I can recall, there were no protesters trying to save the 480 teaching jobs that were slashed from MPS (the weakest district in Wisconsin) last year. Where were they then?

    Oh, and by the way, any teacher that doesn’t like the comensation package still has the same RIGHT as anyone in the private sector….Quit you job and find a better one. Good luck finding a job with the same combination of pay, job security, benefits, and time off. Why do you think there are hundreds if not thousands of applicants for every teaching openning. Not a bad gig if you can get it.

  • http://laynescheffer.wordpress.com layne scheffer

    ” I pay about 3 times what many public workers do for my healthcare and I fund my own retirement.”….and? so? Is this a concern about the state budget or that someone is making more and advancing better than you are? Sound to me like you need to join a profession that is represented better. “I PAY MORE< I DONT MAKE THAT MUCH'……(and therefor no one else should?) Is this your point? Because, other than being a case of penis envy or "have and have not's" the idea that one person pays more for benefits or makes less in salary is nothing more than a jealousy issue….. Lets fix the budget. TAX THE CORPORATIONS…. Take a 1/3 of a million dollars from a corporation and they will not starve or go out of business. Take a 1/3 from a teacher's $25-$50k and she cant pay the rent, afford heat. electric water or medications. I guess if everyone was in the food line you wouldn't feel so lonely? Should we practice our salutations now? "Mr. Koch, could I have just one extra potatoe for my family this week? For my wife is ill and I had to trade my last chicken to the doctor!!"

  • Kristal Kurran

    How about the Governor and all Senators taking a pay cut to balance the buget, after all they are all paid very well and could fair better than the average person or teachers. If they do not take a pay cut, I look forward to all the teachers going out on strike and they will have lots of Unions in Seattle to support them… Maybe all over..

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